Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
anonymous from Canada ....what does your instinct tell you? ;D....pics of a very pretty girl, obviously a model = 100% scam. Is she supposed to be Russian?
Eddie from Sweden
Drod...LOL...'Glad to see you slept well, given the scamlish.'
You're much too subtle for me, would you please clarify? sorry, I know it spoils the joke. Are you implying that anon from USA might be a Russian speaker? ;D
OJAS from United States
It's possible that Ann USA 2007-08-06, 21:30:39, has seen instances like the Au Pair from (UK in this case) working in Massachusetts (in this case sparking an international row)
I personally haven't interacted much with different types of visa holders on the visa subject.
For what it's worth, I'll give my personal experience.
My first entry visa ''interview'' lasted probably a minute, with the vice-consul saying ''So you are going on a scholarship, congratulations''
My green card was sent to my employer, no interview for me.
My citizenship wait (in the court room) was the longest
The interviewee ahead of me was pretty, and took a lot of time to finish her interview.
When my long, nervous wait was over, the interviewer was anxious to get rid of ugly looking guys like me. Very reluctantly he asked for any amendment for testing my English proficiency. I said, ''I have the right to bear arms''. While stamping something, he countered ''Sure, not arm the bears?'' ''Get ....out of here''
I do not wish to mislead anyone with my PRE-9/11 EXPERIENCE
'S' from United States
For what it's worth,those 2 pic's are here someplace.Posted within the last 4 month's I think.
anonymous from Colombia
Does anyone know about this Russian girl?Her name is Olga.
I send my comment from Colombia,
That girl never answers my questions, and she always seems sending a email copies trying to explain her life, hobbies and other personal things.
she never ask me for money.
I'm sure is a scam.
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Scam Artist Anna from Yoshkar-Ola
hello, this one does not stop, here is a mail she sent me today:
Date: 08/08/2007 06:30
Subject: Hi .. Cutie Email me ....
My name is Sydney, I am born in Fortville IN, am 31 yrs, i'm divorced with one kids. i'm Caring.honest,trustworthy,loyal,romantic,intelligent,god-fearing lady, i have being hurt so badly in my past relationship, so I want to meet a serious and well behaved person that will be honest and not here to play game right on here. I would like to get to know you more better. You can reach me back through my private email address so i can send you my pics and tell you more about myself. Ok! Im a very open and honest person. I am seriously looking for my second half Which I would love and Give all my love.
My email address is: Sydneylove_albert001@yahoo.com and My Yahoo Messenger ID is: Sydneylove_albert001
I will be expecting your email and you can aswell add and IM me if you will like to chat with me
I am Looking For a Life Partner Member Name: Sydneylooking1
Member ID: S016378
Hispanic / Latino, 31, Divorced Fortville, Indiana
Age: 31 (3-Jan-1976)
Race: Hispanic / Latino
Marital Status: Divorced
Religion: Christian / Catholic
Drinking: I'm A Social Drinker
Occupation: Banking / Finance
Education: High school
Languages: English (Fluent)
Interests: Music - Rock
Travel / Sightseeing
Movies / Cinema
Eye Colour: Blue
Hair Colour: Blonde
Body Type: I'm Normal Build
Height: 5'06' - (167 cm)
Sydneylooking1 is offline
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Last activity: Within 24 Hours
Well, not to talk much right on here, My name is Sydney. I'm
born in USA and raise up in Yugoslavia ...I am
...Will tell you more abt me later
I'm 5ft 6 inch ... Blonde hair ..Average size ..Tell you
I'm looking for a
nd a responsible man that doesn't fool around, I mean ...i'm
looking for a serious man that's ready to settle down for
good, I am such a woman that has being hrut so badly in my
past and i would want that to happen to me anymore. I want
Age From: 33
Age To: 76
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Scam Artist Anna from Yoshkar-Ola
Anon Iceland,FYI the pic's are a model 'JC' from FocusInternationalHawaii,a modeling web-site.
anonymous from Iceland
yebb, i also found fake id from russian scammer wich uses miss world from Iceland in her/hes id, scammer named Larisa Gaynullina (Russia) the pic is of our Icelandic miss world :) This image was also posted here: Various dating scammers
drod from United States
Your 'lady in red' is JC, a model. You can find her photos at the this link: