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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-05-11, 09:07:33
anonymous  
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Hello there. There r many scammers in russia. I don't want a scammer i want real friend. If u r interested mail me in ut007au@yahoo.com
UT
2007-05-12, 08:42:37   (updated: 2007-05-12, 08:48:35)
sandykernel@gmail.com from United States  
This girl, Elena, allegedly from Michigan is a definite scammer. Don't bother with her. She communicated with me for a while and quickly made up this story that her friend was in desperate need of medical attention and needed money for it. This happened very quickly in our correspondence. To prove to myself she was a scammer, I would send her emails with nothing but quotes from public documents, such as the US Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, and she would send me letters on how she loved me and thanked me for my lovely letters. These were absolutely meaningless emails I sent her and yet she loved me for my wonderful thoughts. I finally told her in the middle of one email, Don't write to me anymore, but she kept at it because she did not ever read the letters.

Don't waste you time on her.

Sandy
2007-05-12, 11:27:38
anonymous from France  
My beloved scammers n°1
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2007-05-12, 11:28:51
anonymous from France  
My beloved scammers n°1
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2007-05-12, 11:29:48
anonymous from France  
My beloved scammers n° 2
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2007-05-12, 11:30:48
anonymous from France  
My beloved scammers n° 3


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2007-05-12, 11:31:37
anonymous from France  
My beloved scammers n° 4


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2007-05-12, 11:32:35
anonymous from France  
My beloved scammers n° 5
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2007-05-12, 11:34:24
anonymous from France  
My beloved scammers n° 6
That all... I'll NOT spend my holidays in FSU !


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2007-05-12, 12:04:11
anonymous from United States  
Do they have names???E-mail addy's???
2007-05-12, 12:13:40
anonymous from United Kingdom  
I got a couple of emails from the lovely Anna. I was going to ask whether anyone knew anything about her then I saw a link to another site and found her there. I took the whole thing as a giggle and found the one way to test her love was to ask for an XXX-rated pic of herself.... always the clincher. Anyway here's some pics of her and her letters. She's a visa and travel scam artist who asks for the air fare, needless to say we didn't get that far... ha

Hello Steve! I have now checked up a mail on my box and have seen your
letter. It is certainly pleasant for me, that you have not ignored my
request for acquaintance. Thanks. Well, give gets acquainted?,
probably, it will be curious to you to learn, what about me? I shall a
little tell. My name is Anna To me of 29 years. I live in Russia in
the city of Kuznecovo. It is small small town on the average the Volga
region Russia. These are 850 kms from Moscow. It absolutely small. But
very good and kind. I live with the daddy and mum at me there is a
senior sister. I have ended institute and now I work. The truth to me
would not be desirable it to do at all. Ha...Ha...Ha.. To work
boringly. That is, certainly, not boringly, at me even very good
collective. But I would like to have a rest. And it is necessary to go
for work. I very much love summer, but at us it was already
terminated. You love the sea? I was once on Black sea. To me there
were 15 years, and the daddy has taken me with itself in business
trip. I till now remember a sunset. As it disappears behind horizon.
But my holiday only in the winter, probably, will be in February, for
the present precisely I do not know. And I should be content with the
days off. You write to me, what it is interesting to you to learn, and
I shall answer you, well? And me, please, tell about itself, well?
Than you are engaged? Where you work? What do you like, and what do
not like? I have music, your favourite books and films in a kind. Can
at you there is an interesting hobby? How you will spend, the free
time? And your favourite holidays name to me too. And what formation
at you? If it is not difficult for you, tell to me about your country.
About your customs and culture. I too shall tell to you about myself.
I love new friends. I cheerful and sociable, and was my hobby
aquarian. Anna.



Hello Steve! I have bought a jacket!!! It's cool! To you, probably,
ridiculously, but you know, how I for a long time about it dreamed?
Now even the soul has calmed down. Mum too was glad, and the daddy, I
saw, how it smiled. So, that now to me the snow and a frost is not
terrible. And it is certainly beautiful! Only Nastya yet did not see,
Nastya it is my sister. She of me is more senior for three years, it
than 29 years. She at me very clever and beautiful. And now I want to
eat, soon I shall go home for a dinner, the on duty machine will be
released through one hour. But sometimes certainly I have dinner
directly on work. But today mum was going very tasty hot and I cannot
refuse temptation and for a dinner I shall go home. The truth will not
be time for rest. But though fish I shall feed. Ha...Ha...Ha. Well,
what like all? But now, the truth, at me the new anxiety has appeared.
Has seen a beautiful skirt and has very much wanted her to buy. In
general it is better to me to not go to shops. One frustration only.
Ha...Ha...Ha. I do not know as though lived in the big city. I in
Kuznecovo have not enough shops and to buy something good it is very
difficult. Any cheap Chinese nonsense is sold. It is necessary to go
in shops to Ioshkar Ola or to Cheboksary, Kirov or Kazan. But closer
it is Ioshkar Ola and Cheboksary. So it is amusing, Ioshkar Ola is
capital Marij-El, is the next republic. Cheboksary it is capital of
the Chuvash republic. What to get to Cheboksary to me it would be
necessary to cross Marij-El and to move the river Volga on
hydroelectric power station! But all this turns out closer, than to go
to Kirov, capital of my republic. My republic refers to the Kirov
area. Look on a card. In the beginning find Ioshkar Ola, she is
located near to the river Volga. Opposite to Cheboksary. And from
Ioshkar Ola 90 km up to Kuznecovo. To tell the truth, I doubt, that
you can see on card Kuznecovo. And still, I want to ask to you not a
modest question, it is possible? You are lonely? Or you have girl or
the girlfriend? In fact as that you should solve the problem with sex?
Or you have mistress? You men very ridiculous when want the woman, are
ready to make anything you like. Ha...Ha...Ha. And as far as I have
had time to understand you, you want them always, and not one skirt do
not pass. From it also are tormented. But certainly if I have offended
you, I am sorry. Good-bye. Write, well? I shall wait. Anna.

P.S. I want your Photo!



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2007-05-12, 12:14:47
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Here's another one of Anna The Scammer...


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2007-05-12, 12:16:03
anonymous from United Kingdom  
And another...


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2007-05-12, 12:34:21
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Has anyone heard from a girl calling herself Natasha? She sent about 7 emails, which were quite inventive if not a little boring. I'll include a few below along with a few of her pics. She never asked me for money but then again she just disappeared without even a goodbye. Strange for a girl who was declaring her undying love.

Anyway (Letter 2)
Hi Steve!!!!! This Natasha
I very pleased to get the letter from You.
I did not think that someone will answer, was is much surprised. I very
grateful You for letter.
As soon as I have got your letter. I much wanted You to write. And here
is I write.
I want You to tell about itself little more. And send its photography.
I 28 years. I was born the September 20 1976 in city Kazan. Live along
with its grandmother. My grandmother call Nina.
She is a single native person who beside I remained. My parents have
died.
The Father, when me was 10 years. He plenty of smoked and die from
cancer light. The Ma much long outlived.
She could not gives in with loss father. The Ma much loved the pope.
Through 2 beside mas has occurred brain attack.
This much terribly. And ma deceased in hospital. And I remained with
its grandmother.
When I remained without parents I did not know that me to do. Beside me
was not nor who except grandmothers.
I nor who did not protect, in school of the boy offended me and named
the orphan. And I nor what could not do.
Since 12 years I brought up the grandmother. She gave me very good
education, I have finished the school with gold medal.
Has Entered in Institute on profession 'Pedagogika and psychology of
the preschool age'.
Since 15 years I ed english. And after 3, I gave the lessons a tutoring
children.
Which learned in 1 class. I began to earn on life since money to us
with grandmother little on that was enough.
In 1993 I have entered in Institute. And nestled in orphanage -
teacher. Settled down I there since.
I much love the children. All children there without parents and I
their much understand.
I have solved to help him, present trace its weasels and kindnesses.
So I and vein. With morning before dinner on work, but with dinner
before evening on training.
The Vein and did not know, where search for its happiness.
And girlfriend has prompted me - descend in Internet - cafe. And here
is I write You. Can this fate?
I much want to have its family. Sometimes when I can not fall asleep, I
dream of man.
Which will me to protect and much want to have an children from it. Can
all that I write You not interesting?
But I write all that think, I not wit to tell lies.
Why I did not become to search for the man in our country?
Since our man is not created for that love and happiness, which I want.
And now I write You in Internet - a cafe since beside I have no own
computer.
This much dearly for me and I can not afford such luxury. No, I not
sting on bad life.
I earn that orderly to live, eat, pay for apartment, sometimes helps
the grandmother.
I must finish its letter, I can assign You questions:
Soglany You continue the acquaintance?
Allow You write You letter? After all You give me hope on sincere love
and clean happiness!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can this is aloud said, but I so feel.

P.S.: Thank you that have listened to me, excuse me if that not so.
I much want to continue our correspondence. But am afraid that
You do not want me to write.
But I shall believe and hope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your Natasha !!!!!!!!!

And here is Letter which is a work of art..

My love I love only you and you to know my love to you and I to make
for you it.
I to make and show the love to you my love.
Thank for a magnificent photo!! She very much is pleasant to me. Write
to me please number the phone.
I LOVE ONLY YOU And I BRAWL the SAFE FOR YOU And I TO THINK THAT to YOU
VERY MUCH
And VERY MUCH TO LIKE THAT THAT I TO MAKE In the LETTER FOR YOU.
I TO WRITE As HEART the LOVE To YOU MY LOVE.
I TO EXPRESS LOVE WHICH I TO TEST ONLY To YOU.
I LOVE ONLY YOU And I WANT TO NESTLE On YOUR BODY And TO BE the
HAPPIEST the GIRL ON ALL the WORLD.
I LOVE YOUR EYES.
I LOVE YOU
I LOVE YOUR HAIR.
I LOVE YOUR HEART.
I LOVE ONLY YOU MY LOVE.
I CAN NOT LIVE WITHOUT YOU.
I TO BE MAD FROM LOVE To YOU.
I ALL TO LOOK AND SEE YOUR LETTERS And I WOULD LIKE TO BE With YOU
FASTER
And TO EMBRACE YOU To the BREAST.
I WANT TO CARESS YOU.
I am STRONG and very STRONG TO LOVE YOU MY LOVE.
I TO BE MAD FROM YOU And FROM OUR LOVE.
I TO TEST the BIG FEELINGS To YOU.
I CAN NOT WITHOUT YOUR HEAT.
I LOVE ONLY YOU And WANT TO BE With YOU.
I SHALL BE the SAFE FOR YOU MY LOVE.
I ONLY FOR YOU WANT TO BE the SAFE.


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I LOVE YOU FREELY WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS
I LOVE YOUR UNDERSTANDING WITHOUT DOUBT
I LOVE YOUR HONESTY WITHOUT DECEIT
I LOVE YOU CREATIVELY WITHOUT CONDITIONING
I LOVE YOU NOW WITHOUT RESERVATION
I LOVE YOU PHYSICALLY WITHOUT PRETENDING
I LOVE YOUR SOUL WITHOUT WISHING
I LOVE YOUR BEING WITHOUT WANTING

I TO SEND YOU it IS a lot OF And MUCH And MANY HOT APASSIONATE
KISSESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS........
With the BIG And STRONG LOVE ON ALWAYS.
I SHALL WAIT FROM YOU for the LETTER And TO HOPE ON FAST the MEETING.
With the BIG LOVE YOUR Natalia.


Anyone got any similar letters?


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2007-05-12, 13:14:11
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Here's another of the love-hungry Natasha...




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