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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2006-07-29, 04:57:10
[hidden] from United States  
here a picture from scammer girl from Senegal the name is Vivian (ilegale monetary transfer)

This image was also posted here:
Scammer Jane Mabou from Ivory Coast, Africa



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2006-07-29, 16:23:00
deurwaerder_jos12@yahoo.co.uk from Belgium  
We just started to communicate though I do not exactly remember the how and when but as she already halfway believes me to be interesting enough to be her future husband I doubt her sincerity. Up till now the only women interested in me only had my (very thin) wallet in mind. Olga looks nice but as a comfort not too nice and although she is probably too young for an guy in his forties I'd like to go on for a while. Have already been made a fool, so I guess I learned the lesson. She uses the address: olgarus-85@mail.ru. I guess she's the one who wrote to me first so that is in a way against her, but needn't be as I got some nice corrspondents who wrote me first (of course these do not see me as a future husband or anything else). Does auone know her? If so, please let me know.


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2006-07-30, 04:48:02
anonymous from Kuwait  
Marina Vinogorova (marina-vinogorova@yandex.ru)
There is two photos of her posted here,She call herself (Irina bablo).
her email (morebabok@mail.ru).
2006-07-30, 04:49:39
[hidden] from Kuwait  
Marina Vinogorova (marina-vinogorova@yandex.ru)
There is two photos of her posted here,She call herself (Irina bablo).
her email (morebabok@mail.ru).
2006-07-30, 14:30:45
anonymous from Netherlands  
what about her?scammer or not?


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2006-07-31, 17:33:51
spierce469@aol.com from United States  
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Hello,

My name is Steve and it looks like I was scammed too. I have only invested the time it took to write 8 letters and today I got my first letter (from Elena) that raised my suspicions big time! The letter today was the first time that she talked about traveling to see me and how she was not sure, but didn't think that her 120usd salary a month she earns would be able to buy her much of a plane ticket. (She was trying to set me up for the future). She also sent me another picture but this time instead of have a numbered file (like 8.jpg) is was sent as lili.jpg. Before she had sent me one as elena.jpg. She must be writing to too many people at once and forgot which name she was using on the file she sent. How I verified this was a scam was by googling some key phrases from the second letter she wrote and 'wham', there they were, her first 4 letters she wrote me, sent to some guy in Australia, what d'ya know!

Anyway I am inserting her second letter to me in case someone else is being scammed. Sound familiar anyone?

Hi Steve. I am happy to see the new letter from you.
I want to tell you more about myself; also I would like to tell you
about my family.
For my unhappiness I lost my father 5 years ago. He had a lung cancer
because of frequent smoking.
I`m sending to you photoes, you can see my mother with me.
My mather still alive but after death of my father, she was so bad and
she had heart attack. And our doctors told her that she must live in village,
because there is free air and there is no city noise .
It was very difficult time for me to overcome father, i loved him so much,
but my friends told me that i must be strong, he watch what i do. I need him
so much, his care, his kind advices and his love.
I think that it is necessarily to have some support in the life!
Certainly it is important to be strong and try to overcome all difficulties
yourself but sometimes it so uneasily...
to do it without somebody's help and support. And that is why I appreciate
people who are always with me, who help me to live!
Ok, let’s back to my mom......
My mother`s name is Kseniya, she is 54 years old. She is Russian pensioner.
She live in a village 50 kilometres from Kazan (my town , if you forgot)
She have an attractive appearance and a very good sence of humor.
She is very good woman, every days i thinking of
her and i wish her good health, i ask our God to help her.
When i have time i visit her, we sit near each other and talk, talk about all...
I like when she tell me when she was young or how she meet my father. I like it
most of all, it is very good when kids speak with their parents, i don't understand
when kids don't want to visit their parents... It is very bad...
Steve I think that my mother the best mother in the world. She is my ideal.......
I have no brothers and sisters. And i live alone in the flat. I have much time for
watching tv and reading book or going to the cinema.
I like it, i like good movies, but i will tell you about it in my next letter.
Because it is another topic for discussion.
I hope that you will write me about your parents. It will very interesting for me
to know about your family. Do you live alone?
Let's help to know each other better and i am sure that my letters will help you to
know me.... Don't worry i have much topic for conversation and all of them will
interesting for you... I promise....
Have a nice day. Elena.

This image was also posted here:
Dating scam from Kazan, Russia - Part 1



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2006-08-01, 10:01:14
[hidden] from Kuwait  
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Marina Vinogorova (marina-vinogorova@yandex.ru) OR
Irina bablo ( morebabok@mail.ru )
Compare it with what you have this is her first email

Hello
It is pleasant for me, that you have become interested in me. Earlier I did not betray the big value to acquaintance through the Internet, and thought, that it is unreal to find the destiny, through the Internet, not having met with the person. But I have all the same decided to try it. Also I hope that at me from this that that will turn out. I want you to
ask: you when be had experience of acquaintance through the Internet? If is not present, it would be interesting to know, that at us from this it will turn out :)))
I really do not know that it will be interesting to you to find out about me. The simplest if you will ask me. For now I shall write to you, that I think, you should know about me:
To me now 27 years, my birthday March, 8, 1977. My growth of 170 sm and weight of 53 kg. I live one in the apartment in city Saratov which stands on river Volga. Earlier I lived with my mum, but now when I became adult, I began to live one. I studied Saratov the State University on a specialty 'manager' whom I have finished three years back, but unfortunately I could not find work on a specialty, and now I work as the seller in shop 'NIKE'. I very much like my work as I like to work with people. I love walks on a
wood on fresh air, like to listen to modern music POP, and also romantic music. To me
to like to go to cinema if certainly film is interesting to me. I like different films, but most of all to me like a good fantasy. Most my liked film 'X-files'. At leisure I like to esteem the good book, houses on a sofa. And in the childhood I liked to collect dolls. I had
rather big collection but when I have grown up,I have thought that these dolls may deliver to someone more pleasure, than me. And I have given them to children's home 'Hope'. As it is very a pity to me of these children, which one on all Light. And I am very glad,that I could, though somehow to them to help. I very much love children but while I have no own children and I hope that when be at me there will be own children. And I shall make utmost to be best mum on light. But all over again I need to find persons kind, clever which has strong spirit and which will divide with me all joyful and sad moments. Which will require love, and can give love to the future family. For which are necessary: fair serious
relations. For the sake of such person whom I shall love I it is ready on all. But all over again I should be sure, that it is that person who is necessary for me. And which becomes a worthy example to our children.On it I while shall finish the story about me.I shall wait from you for the answer soon. It will be interesting to me to find out about that place where you live, than you are engaged.I very much would want to see your photo if it probably, please, send to me him. I wish to find out you more. And if you want to know something about me, please, ask, I with pleasure shall answer you.Your new friend from Russia Irina P.S. I would like to ask you some questions which to me will help to find
out about you more. I hope that you will answer them frankly.What your best feature?
My best feature, that I very kind trustful person. But sometimes there are people which use it, and offend me. I hope that you so will never do? You were ever married or in serious attitudes? I was never married. As I could not find the person in whom I could
trust on all of 100 . I think that marriage is very serious step, and I would not like to be mistaken in it. I already had one serious attitude, and it was very hurt for me. And
consequently I now am cautious with it. You have any children? I have no children, but very much I would want them to have. But while I have not found the person who could become the father of my future children .
2006-08-01, 10:04:01
[hidden] from Kuwait  
Marina Vinogorova (marina-vinogorova@yandex.ru) OR
Irina bablo ( morebabok@mail.ru )
Compare it with what you have this is her second email

HI my new friend
Again it is pleasant for me to receive the letter from you probably, that
our correspondence will give rise than the relation between us is more white
serious. It was very interesting to know new interesting things about you.
And to you, I hope it was pleasant to find out about me more. Under your
letter I see, that people everywhere identical and are not present any
distinction of what country there will be my future person. The god who
created this world, he did not create geographic border so I do not see any
distinction. I know, that when I to find my unique person then I shall move
to him in any place in this world. I sure, that good peoples may live in any
place, is especial when they like together. I shall try to write something
about me which might be interesting to you, and only to a thing which I want
to inform you. And if you will want to ask me something, be not afraid to
ask. I always have only two choices when whom - that asking me something:
answer fairly or t! not answer. I never shall be to you Lie, I shall answer you
always your questions Sincerely. I shall try to inform you about my qualities
also. Only, to warn you, that you might at expectation from me :-) the Hope to
not frighten off you with it. I - the kind good woman, definitely a kind, a good
sight, care and fair. Sounds it is similar to a poem in mine name :-) I am some
dreamer; I present my sweet stories and can be really sad, if they do not
understand. One of my dreams and hopes - to live in full family somewhere
in a good place, have good friends instead of to disturb us strange things it
is similar to a political, economic situation and etc:-). I want family there all
members only life the friend for the friend. I love open inclined peoples who
prefer to speak sad things, instead of it hiding it - even on behalf of care.
I am rather patient person, and I can at realization in my feelings while I do
not understand a situation completely but if something makes me angry - I -
very much gentle disposition. Similarly to my friends informs 'very
difficultly to wake a good sleeping bear, but if you made it you would be
better to escape ':-). If address to the facts, I - very much and become very
rare angry; may remember only pairs a situation - my lie of former my young
man to me when he spoke me one, and actually deceived me. Therefore in
Russia has failed to create the family. Also has decided to find loved and
the only thing through the Internet. And if to inform about relations with
other world... There are only two sides - me both my family, and rest of
the world. I like to prepare, and I like to create coziness in the house. I
always try to create a sweet sweet home, and I really want to have the
family :-) to finish family! I am valid to be absent for whom - the one who
will divide with me all pleasures of life and might be favorable in any
situation. I very much like to travel. I earlier very much with mum went on
Russia when some more the prices for tickets were not expensive. Now I can
afford to go with friends not far from city on lakes. We go to campaigns in
the summer. It is very fine, at us very beautiful edge. All year I wait for a
summer when I again can take the knapsack and I shall go on lake. A wood,
a guitar, tent, unless it is not fine?
To I regret have no at home the phone and consequently to write to you to
me save a little face it is necessary to go in the Internet of cafe. I would
like to find out you is best and probably we might as be to speak with you
the phone. Please inform me your number the phone.
On it I think to finish the letter, it and so it has turned out little bit
big, and I hope, that have not tired you with him. And I was more about
myself to you I shall write in the following letter, you see we only begin
to find out each other.
I would like to ask you some questions, and I hope, that you will answer
them as I want to find out about you more.
What you like to do at leisure? At leisure I love walks on fresh air,
together with the girlfriends. Well and certainly campaigns on shops, as
well as all women :)))
If we were together where you would want to go on a vacation and why? If we
were together, I very much would want to go on ocean. I never saw ocean in
reality. I saw him only on TV, and he seems to me that very beautiful.
The hope, not frightened you with big letter. If you have closely read all,
write to me again. I with impatience shall wait for your answer.
Irina!
2006-08-01, 10:13:53
[hidden] from Kuwait  
What about her?scammer or not?

Forget about the names and places just read
these messages on the two Websites :

http://www.stop-sca..port7.asp
http://www.stop-sca..port17.asp
2006-08-01, 15:35:45
[hidden] from Kuwait  
spierce469@aol.com
Elena on this site she call herself Olya email (olya_olya2006@yahoo.com )
http://www.romances..1142&pos=0
2006-08-01, 17:04:04
[hidden] from Kuwait  
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Marina Vinogorova (marina-vinogorova@yandex.ru) OR
Irina bablo (morebabok@mail.ru)
I fond her pictures on this site she call
herself Dinara email (dinarkats@rambler.ru).
http://www.romances..album=2889
2006-08-02, 09:11:55
anonymous from Australia  
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Check the latest scammer out guys, annanavsegda@mail.ru
She's nice one after long time since they started emailing me again before I screwed them all up ;)


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2006-08-02, 18:20:47
kokoro@centurytel.net from United States  
Has anybody seen this girl? I have been contacted by her on Yahoo. Pretty much sounds the same as what I have been reading from other people on here. She goes by Lubov Sidorkina from Kazan, Russia. She has given me her home address. She is asking for my phone number and address. Says she doesn't have a phone. Haven't asked for money or gifts. Yet??


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2006-08-02, 20:53:15
anonymous from United States  



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2006-08-04, 09:20:25
anonymous from Denmark  
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hi, anybody know he... Natasha from Cheboksary russia...26yrs... i can see her on 2 scammer pages when i google he! i have more picks! ... bey the way she asked for 90-100dollers for a phone card to call me!... i did not pay her! DK


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