i started to receive the same letters about a week ago it felt odd that she didnt answer any of the question i asked that how i found this page thanks for the heads up
Boomer2@bmt.net from United States
There are several girls ( machine driven emails) asking for money from the kind hearted people around the world. My girl is Nataliya Kachanova from Kropotkin Russia. It's to bad she isn't real I like helping people but the big hairy guy sending the emails isn't getting my money. How can we pay back these ass holes?
anonymous from Sweden
ahahaha...Boomer2@bmt.net ...not much you can do unless you fancy a trip to the gulag. Quite simply, warn newbies who come here looking for advice, and post any scam mails, pics and info. You can also bait the scammers if you have time and can be assed to do it.
I usually get as much info and as many pics out of them as I can, then send them this mail:
Pozhalujsta, ne oskorbl'ajte moj intellekt. Ty ne zhivete v (name of city), ty zhivete v Yoshktar Ola, prestupnyj gorod v Rossii. Ty posylayete mne ukradennyye fotografii i pis'ma kopii khu'in'a. Skoro, ty budete prosit' den'gi poluchit' vizu (nevozmozhnyj poluchit' bez pis'mennogo priglasheniya ot men'a i biletov takzhe.)
Poetomu, ya sekonoml'u tas nekotoroye vrem'a. Pojdite ots'uda, chtoby iskat' chestnuyu rabotu, ty neschastnyj zhulik. Ya ne imeyu interes dl'a vashego skamerstvo. Oto'idi, a to jebnu. Idi na khuy!
Please do not insult my intelligence. You don't live in (name of city), you live in Yoshktar Ola, a criminal city in Russia. You send me stolen photos and low-quality copy letters. Soon, you'll request money to obtain a visa (impossible to obtain without a letter of invitation from me and tickets as well.)
Therefore, I will save you some time. Go from here to seek an honest job, you miserable swindler. I'm not interested in your scam business. Get lost or I'll kick your ass. Fuck you!
I have a cyrillic version as well. If the scammer is unusually hasty and I get a money letter before I've blown him off with this one, i send a slightly longer version.
Pozhalujsta ne oskorbl'ajte moj intellekt. Ty dolzhny byt' samym nekompetentnym zhulikom v Rossii, ty mudozvon.
1. Ty posylayete mne skopirovannyye pis'ma s nizkim kachestvom. Ty ne chitayete moi otvety, i ty ignoriruyete moi voprosy. Veroyatno, ty ne imeyete nikakogo obrazovaniya, i ty mozhete tol'ko govorit' na russkom yazyke. Poetomu ya pishu tam na russkom yazyke tak, chtoby ty mogli pon'at', ty opesdol.
2. Ty pishete mne ispol'zuyuschij server NOSKOV i Internet GPRS (takzhe BAT! programma spama) .... tipichnyye ulovki dl'a internet-zhulika. Yesli ty yavl'ayetes' iskrennimi, pochemu ty skryvayete tashe mestopolozheniye? Ya znayu, chto ty zhivete v Yoshktar Ola, prestupnom gorode Rossii, gorod s bol'shim kolichestvom skamerstvo. Ty znayete “skamerstvo”?
3. Tashi fotografii ochen' krasivy, no ty ne fakticheskaya devochka. Veroyatno, ty paren' s nazvaniyem, Boris.
4. Tak ili inache, eto dolzhno byt' nevozmozhnym dl'a tas poluchit' vizu dl'a moyej strany bez pis'mennogo priglasheniya ot men'a, kopiya moyego pasporta, zayavleniye ot sponsora, i t.d i t.d. Takzhe ty ne mozhete poluchit' vizu bez biletov.
5. Ty professional'nyj prestupnik, kotoryj obmanyvayet den'gi ot odinokih muzhchin, kotoryye tol'ko ischut horoshego partnera. Pochemu ty delayete eto? Ty slishkom glupy, chtoby rabotat'? Ili slishkom lenivyj? Ne govorite mne reb'acheskiye opravdaniya, naprimer, “ya ne imeyu nikakih vozmozhnostej raboty”, “ty seksual'nyj turist, ty imeyete pravo ter'at' tashi den'gi” ili “nevozmozhnyj najti zhenu v Rossii, eto tol'ko mechta”. Ves'ma prosto, ty vor nizkogo klassa.
Nakonec, zhulik dolzhen byt' boleye umnym chem yego zhertva. No ty slishkom glupy, chtoby byt' uspeshnym. Yesli by ya mog by najti tas, ya pnul by tash zadnicu. yob tvoyu mat'. ëb tvoju mat'.
Please do not offend my intelligence. You must be the most incompetent swindler in Russia, you bullshitter.
1. You send me low-quality copied letters. You do not read my replies and you ignore my questions. Probably, you are uneducated and you can only speak Russian. Therefore I write to you in Russian so that you will understand, you moron.
2. You write to me using a SOCKS-server and GPRS internet (also The BAT! Spam program)....typical tricks for the Internet swindler. If you are sincere, why do you hide your location? I know that you live in Yoshktar Ola, criminal city in Russia, a city with much skamerstvo. You know “skamerstvo”?
3. Your photos are very beautiful, but you are not an actual girl. Probably, you are a guy by the name of Boris.
4. Anyway, it would be impossible for you to obtain a visa to my country without a letter of invitation from me, + a copy of my passport, + an application from sponsor, etc etc. Also you cannot obtain a visa without tickets.
5. You are a professional criminal who deceives money from lonely men who only search for a nice partner. Why do you do it? You are too foolish to work? Or too lazy? Do not tell me childish justifications, for example, “I have no work opportunities”, “you are a sex tourist, you deserve to lose your money” or “impossible to find a wife in Russia, it is only a dream”. Quite simply, you are a low-class thief.
Finally, the scammer should be cleverer than its victim. But you are too stupid to be successful. If I could find you, I would kick your zadnicu. 'Tob' your mother.
Try it and see :D
anonymous from Switzerland
I recieved the exact same hoax, she was good until I said I would send my driver in Moscow to deliver her money, then she disappeared- the letters were all cut and paste.
Must be a internet fat boy not a neat chik.
Hello my dear. Thank you my darling that you have understood me. You are so kind person really. Now i become dreaming more about my future life
because my dreams is becoming truth.
I am waiting only your answer and i will check my mail more often.
What are you doing. Do you think and dream about me so often like me? May be i am crazy but i can't think nothing more only about you. For me it is
really new life,it is FREEDOM!!!
Want to hug you and kiss.
anonymous from Switzerland
Nataliya (from Russia with Love and Western Union dreams)
it is me,can you believe I am in Moscow. I can't believe ,it was
wonderful flight and they gave red vine in plane,wow,I have never tried
such tasty one!!!!!
I was in travel agency today, but my documents are not ready yet, it
will be ready in 2 days.
So in 2 days I will go to travel agency again to get all info about my
And of course, when I will get it - I will send it to you!
It is such great city
and it takes a few hours to travel from one end to other. I took a taxi
from the aiport to the flat i rented for few days.
They have such nice taxis ,it is Ford - Focus -not new one (1998 ) it was so
nice jorney from airport to the flat.
So comfortable car,I have never been into such car!
Taxi driver showed me some nice places in Moscow while he was taking me down
to the flat. Such a great city it is. I have no words to explain.
you can't imagine how great Moscow is,to be fair I wouldn't like to
live here,a lot of cars,people ,
voice and pollution.Ugly traffic and people with crazy eyes.
When I get off plane in airport Moscow policeman asked about
passport and he looked at me like I am any enemy,
I think all people here are a little crazy at terrorism.
Life here in Moscow is expensive. I was going through some shops today
and it is much more expensive than in our town. Food and all the general
things. It is the same country but different prices, what a great change.
I think people living in Moscow are very cautious ,I think so.
But I think that I have done my choice and to be fair I don't want to
live here,it is not the city of my dreams.
you know I am not coward I am not afraid I know it is my chance to meet
kind man .I do hope I am right.
and I think you are too kind to make any bad things I feel it.
Well,I will close this letter ,please write as soon as possible!see
you soon!KISS . Great kiss from moscow!!!!!!!!!!Nataliya!
it is me again and I want you to know that you can't imagine how happy
I have a schedule of my flight.you can't imagine how much crazy
Moscow is. It is great fear to live here I think so!Our small town is
more friendly . well,about our business,
I tasted my blood,such rule for foreign visitors wanting to visit your
country!Thanks God I am in good health,
all of my tests are all right,I only need some vitamins I think it
is the bad foods and long winters problem.I have to eat much more
fruits and vegetables.The doctor said!
well,here is all info ,I do hope we will together in a few days!
Informationion for Kachanova Nataliya
'CityTravel',Belkin Sergey.3690768 Moscow,Leningradskaya street
Moscow to Geneva
Flight 1 Monday, July 23, 2007
Departure: 18:35 Moscow, Russia - Domodedovo
Arrival: 20:20 Geneva, Switzerland - Geneva Intl, terminal M
Airline: Swiss LX1335 e Aircraft: Airbus Industrie A320-100/200
Please use our service .
Best regards.Manager Belkin Sergey.
Price: USD . 00+
Honey I am so glad to see that I am almost near my goal,and our meeting
wait for us.
I think I will call you from airport and I will wait for you there so
long as you need,I mean if you need any time to arrive in airport.
it is not problem to wait there because I know that it is the end of
my trip and I have time to improve my condition(some parfume)after
long jorney.I want you to see me in good shape!
I think everything will be all right.Rather I am sure everything will
be all right!.
My Dear, they have told in travel office that I have to show tickets
when I will visit embassy after tomorrow before my flight.
People from embassy must be sure that I am not going to stay
illegally in your country and I have tickets with returning data.it is
very strong rule. I have some money but my flight
from Tomsk to Moscow costed so much(about 600$)
because so many kilometrs from there to Moscow.
I didn't guess that tickets costs so much.
and I have to book tickets till in less than 2 days ,because of my interview. May
be you could borrow some money?I am sure I will be able to return it
back in a few weeks after my arriving I will earn some money and at
first to return all money to you.
in Agency they have told me that you may send it by Western Union.
It is pretty easy to use. The guy from the agency explained to me how their
system works. It is instant worldwide money transfer system. All you need is my
name and my surname to send me the money. Once you do this , I'll be able
to pickup the money in any local Western Unuion office in Moscow.
We need to do it pretty fast,
because we have no time till my intervew,if everything will be all
right I will be on this flight!
I have about 300 US dollars yet and I think I need about 400 US
dollars from your side with all travel needs and living
here till my flight!If everything will be all right between us I can
you longer than three months,maximum I can stay about 6 months for
first time! We should change only the date of my returning flight.
Or I can return earlier if something is wrong!
Here is more info about Western Union. You find any local Western Union agent,
go there and send money to my name. Western Union will ask you for my full name
and address in Moscow where I am staying at. Once you give them all the info
they will initiate the transfer. In just less than 10 minutes I will be able
to pick the money up at any Western Union agent here in moscow.
you will send me transfer info and MTCN( money transfer control number )
I will get cash. So I will need your full name and your address + the control
number of the transfer.
Kiss you many times ,I am tired today,you know it is hard enough to be
in foreign city. So many different emotions .
Kiss you many times! Nataliya! see you soon!
Ah, silly me. Nearly forgot to give you my full name info and my address.
My address here (the flat i am renting)
is Russia,Moscow ,Lenina sreet,build 61 flat 105.
(right writting in English) KACHANOVA NATALIYA !
I am sorry to send so dry letter but it seems to me I am like any
I have lost my mind and my head works so badly,see you tomorrow. I am
sorry to make so
many problems for you I only hope that you will be not disappoined to
Eddie from Sweden
anonymous from Switzerland, I recognise these letters ;D ...they are very well used.
for reference sake, and hopefully for somebody's benefit, here are the Russia/Schengen visa procedures:
1....a Russian can come on a tourist visa but they are very difficult to obtain (I know because a real Russian travel agent told me so). She must have paid for a return flight or tour to her destination country IN ADVANCE, she must have booked and paid for HOTEL ROOMS in her destination country in advance as well, she must have an income and enough money to support herself during her visit, and she must have a letter from her employer in Russia (ie she MUST HAVE A JOB). Then she has to take these papers + her passport + visa application to the an embassy in Moscow in person (or she can pay to send an authorized representative, eg a travel agent). The visa usually takes 7-10 working days to process, during which time she has to stay in Moscow and wait for her visa. And if the girl has a job then it's very difficult for her get time off work to travel to Moscow to collect her visa, and it usually costs 3/4000 roubles extra for the travel agent to do it.
2...she can come on a sponsored visa (homestay visa), which is quite easy to obtain, and almost the same rules apply except she needs a letter of invitation from her sponsor, a copy of the sponsor's passport, sponsor's tax registration (Sweden), and a signed completed sponsor's application form guaranteeing financial support during her visit (instead of the proof of income, job etc). The rest of the process is the same...ie she must have PAID tickets, must travel to Moscow etcetc.
BTW, the same rules apply when Europeans visit Russia, i have been as a tourist and on a homestay visa. It is a very laborious process to get a visa in either direction, especially if the girl lives outside Moscow or St Petersburg.
In other words, any girl asking for a visa alone is a scammer, because she would need money for tickets FIRST, after that money for a visa.