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2007-11-05, 11:09:15
OJAS from United States  
Anon US 2007-11-05, 06:47:19
You don't need to break someones heart for want of a phone number http://www.delphifa..p=60#56098
2007-11-06, 10:21:30
anonymous from United States  
Thanks for the links to the phone numbers. I will tell 'her' that I just got a new phone and all is well. Last email I sent them I told them about me, Larry, Moe and Curly living in a cardboard box under the railroad tracks. Their reply was how beautiful my house must be. Course shes already in love with me. True love doesn't care about where we live.....DH
2007-11-06, 12:06:15
OJAS from United States  
Sure DH
Why wait for a public phone until you are ready to fill up.

For want of a phone
Thou shan't cause pain
In the heart of someone!

Have a nice day! :-D
2007-11-07, 18:42:19
anonymous from United States  
Here is an email and a reply I received from a swindler in Russia.

Hey sexy baby,

Finally got my phone working. When I said I didn't have one, just meant it wasn't working right at the moment. Where I live, its sometimes hard to keep a phone going. I think they get messed up on the mule ride out here in the sticks. Ok, sticks here means way far away from many towns. But the chickens and goats don't seem to mind. Just have to haul water a long way for them. The attached pic may explain mucho better.

Anyhow, here is my phone number. 1-519-679-9999 Just let me know when you may call.

Love your sexy ass lots!!!

THE REPLY:: (The XXXX is where my name was)

Hello my love XXXX. I am very glad to see your letter. I shall try to
call to you. Yesterday I sat on a bed and read the book, but I have
understood, that I can not concentrate The attention on it. My ideas
came back to you again and again. I thought as far as it will be
wonderful it to wait for you from work, to meet You with a sensitive
kiss and embrace to prepare tasty supper for you and to give To you
all love and care. XXXX I want to give you everything, that I have, I
want to do you very happy , As you do me. I feel myself very well,
because We soon shall meet, but I am afraid to lose you. I hope, with
all by mine By heart, that that will not interfere with our happiness.
XXXX I hope, that for you our attitudes as roads as well as for me.
And I never shall lose you. On it I shall finish the letter. Please
inform, that you think of all it. I whole you. Your Alisa.
2007-11-08, 00:01:24   (updated: 2007-11-08, 00:02:46)
Eddie from Sweden  
DH...if you get bored with it, try this special customized form mail I composed.....if you haven't seen it before.

(written in the Latin alphabet because you haven't posted 'her' address, or what email system you're using, and yahoo, gmail etc aren't cyrillic friendly).

Privet khokhol!
Pozhalujsta, ne oskorbl'ajte moj intellekt. Ty ne zhivete v (fill in name of scammer's city), ty zhivete v Yoshkar Ola, prestupnyj gorod v Rossii. Ty posylayete mne ukradennyye fotografii i nizkokachestvennyye skopirovannyye pis'ma. Skoro, ty budete prosit' den'gi poluchit' vizu (nevozmozhnyj poluchit' bez pis'mennogo priglasheniya ot men'a i biletov takzhe.)

Poetomu, ya sekonoml'u tas nekotoroye vrem'a. Pojdite ots'uda, chtoby iskat' chestnuyu rabotu, ty neschastnyj zhulik. Ya ne imeyu interes dl'a vashego skamerstvo. Oto'idi, a to jebnu. Idi na khuy!

English version:

Hello vile greedy one!
Please don't insult my intelligence. You don't live in (name of city), you live in Yoshkar Ola, a criminal city in Russia. You send me stolen photos and poor-quality copy letters. Soon, you'll ask for money to obtain a visa (impossible to obtain without a letter of invitation from me and tickets as well.)

Therefore I will save you some time. Go from here and seek an honest job, you miserable swindler. I'm not interested in your scam business. Get lost or I'll kick your ass. Fuck you!

Attach this photo for added effect:

2007-11-12, 14:40:21
anonymous from United States  
Got an address from one of the scammers: Kazan, Street Klari Cetkin 17 house 9.
Index 420098.

Also a new email from a new girl. Attaching her pic to see if it matches or anyone recognizes 'her'


2007-11-12, 16:17:53
OJAS from United States  
If you are new to this site, PLEASE READ: http://www.delphifa..p=15#60453

@allbies, once in a while check these links for information currency [Link Version 2007-11-11, 17:27:58]
2007-11-12, 16:33:01
Eddie from Sweden  
DH...don't recognise the photo from this site.

I'm sure the address is fake, but if you want to confirm, send her some flowers via Interflora. If they don't get through, you get a notification and you won't get billed. (only do it if you think the girl might just be real).
2007-11-12, 16:35:02
Eddie from Sweden  
Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread ....PLEASE READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of grief/homework


The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole his pics from and ).

Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses, and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter. They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait. Furthermore, the majority of Russian scammers nowadays use proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations.

A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!

If, by any chance, you don't believe me, read this: http://www.cheboksa..mers.html

So....if several or more of the following criteria apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .

# 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
# girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.
# girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first.
# scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.
# photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think with your brain!
# most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this strange because a serious girl who's looking for a partner usually saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.
# GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.
# very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish copy)
# writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet? Even Internet cafés are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level? PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use, or hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).
# doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.
# falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.
# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam. THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really..

MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
# she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!

She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in her country and a letter from her employer. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Immigration would consider her an overstay risk and never let her in without credit. Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Furthermore, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted. should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.

There are a few scammers that are more patient and professional, who will take months before they scam you for money (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot them anyway). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

But a ground rule is: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It worked for me.
2007-11-13, 07:23:51
anonymous from United States  
Posting a couple more pics from yet another 'girl'. They must need some Christmas cash......DH

2007-11-13, 07:25:10
anonymous from United States  
One more if her,,, DH

2007-11-13, 09:19:26
anonymous from United States  
DH fro US try this site http://www.globalad..ype=phrase I searched for Kazan Klari Cetkin 17 9 420098 in [If unsure about Kalre / Klari search Klar*]
2007-11-13, 09:28:11
anonymous from United States  
Here's a new face for Maria Shabalina(Smolenceva), Kazan, It's been a couple of months now and it's going to Moscow the 15th Nov.. It's going to talk to Katya, it's friend, $. Her daughter had open heart surgery and Maria lent her the money for the operation. She fell in 'LOVE' after a month. No phone, no cell phone, no computer, no car and she's a Dentist! Lives @ the address on this site mara st, house 34, apt 6 Kazan 420071. LU was run over again, poor dog! Waiting now for the pitch, $! Kinda fun. Kinda getting tired of the emails that sound the same each time with thrown in comments. IP is Mari-el, Yoshkar.Ola & Krasnodar, It has some fast transportation to get from Kazan to Yoshkar.Ola. Enjoyed reading info on this site, thanks guys.

2007-11-14, 09:33:17
Eddie from Sweden  
anonymous from United States 2007-11-13, 09:28:11

Good work!...and nice pic too, must be a Beverley Hills dentist, eh? LOL

2007-11-14, 10:34:12
OJAS from United States  
If you are new to this site, PLEASE READ: http://www.delphifa..p=52#60711

@allbies, once in a while check these links for information currency [Link Version 2007-11-13, 09:37:32]
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