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I saw a picture of her in the list of scammers. Does anyone recognize her? She says her
name is Julia. I posted some pictures she sent me recently. Her email address to me was
My address is

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2006-10-24, 20:52:26
Mrs. C from United States  
I cant remember how to get the Ip address..someone posted it above.
(Help us out poster from
2006-10-23, 13:40:33 (updated: 2006-10-23, 19:01:40)

I used this site to look up the location it is comming from
2006-10-24, 21:16:59
anonymous from United States  
I am going to play along with her and see how far it goes. I want her to think that I have fallen hook, line and shinker for her. It has to be for money for her to 'get here'. Just waiting for that bomb to drop. I am like one of the guys that posted, don't get any responses to my questions. She just asks them, wants to know who is taking my pictures! I will paste the last email from yesterday below. Good luck guys, thanks for this post!!

Hi, my lovely friend Mick! !!!!!!!

Again I write to you. Days feel like years – all I want to do is write
you a letter.
It’s not too long since you last wrote to me – but I already miss your
There’s so much heat and understanding in them that sometimes I feel
that you are next to me – as if I only have to reach out to touch you.
Sometimes I want to hear your voice so much, look into your eyes… but
there are thousands of miles between us…

I want to tell to you about the last weekend. On Sunday I went to
church. In the Peter City there are many historical buildings,
churches and cathedrals. I live near the house where Alexander
Sergeevich Pushkin
used to live. You know this Russian poet?
I am an orthodox Christian and as all Christians I go to church.
I can’t do it very often because I usually work on weekends. I felt
very sad this
weekend – that’s why I decided to go to church and pray. The service
lasted pretty
long - 4 hours. But I do not really know how to pray right, so I pray
I ask God to help me get over all the troubles. I also pray for you
every single day!
Our churches are different from Catholic ones: they have domes that
look like enormous
light bulbs. Each dome has a cross on top of it. The domes are usually
painted into green,
blue or covered with tinsel. There are icons hanging on the inside
In front of each icon stands a candlestick onto which people put lit
candles if they want
to ask the saint depicted on the icon for help. During the service,
people working in church,
distribute bread made from water and flour among people. This bread is
very tasty.
When I come to church and I pray, my soul relaxes. And I know that God
is with me.
I think that he lives in the heart of each of us. Do you agree with me?
Tell me, do you believe in God? Do you go to church?
But, please, don’t think that I’m preaching or trying to make someone
believe in God.

I can’t explain you how you have made me feel inside during last few
weeks. You have made my days sunny, the colors I see brighter, and the
thought of you has made me happy. It seems like nothing bothers me
now. I just think of you and my problems go away. I realize that we
don’t know each other for too long, but I feel affection towards you.
I like the life I live here, but I would give everything up just to see
you. The time that
we spend here on earth is nothing if compared to forever. I believe in
forever with all my heart.
I don’t want to wait any longer – I want to be with you! I am ready to
become the happiest woman
in the world and I am ready to give you my everything to make you the
happiest man in the world.
And thank you for being so hospitable : ) When two people are attached
to each other,
it is a crime against love for them to be apart. I would rather go
through hell with you,
than live in emptiness without you. Now we should meet, face to face. I
flatter myself with your feelings.
I am glad that you feel something special about me and I am happy to
know that I am on your mind.
I do have a feeling of comfort and affection towards you as well, but I
must wait until the right time comes.
I believe that you wouldn't do anything to hurt me or jeopardize our
I promise that I will not break our friendship too.
I enjoy communicating with you and learning about your life very much.
I am very glad that you are interested in me. I must finish my letter.
Also, I want to ask you, what makes you happy Mick? Do you believe in
love at first sight?
I don’t have much sexual experience - I had sex twice, just two
partners. Is it OK with you?
You will be my teacher. : ) When we started communicating I bought a
flag of your country.
I have decided to make to you a surprise - I hope you will like my new

Best wishes. Lots of kisses for you,
my Mick.
2006-10-24, 21:18:27
anonymous from United States  
I don't see an IP address on the emails I'm getting from Yahoo but that's interesting and great stuff for this type of pardon me crap!
2006-10-25, 06:21:21
anonymous from United States  
Mick you got the standard form letter!!!!!
I'm doing the same thing but taking it farther seeing what game I can play!
2006-10-25, 09:13:27
anonymous from United States  
WASTETIMEGIRL (how appropriate!)

In yahoo, when you open the email, look at the bottom right and select 'show full headers' That is where you can find the IP address. In Outlook, select file, then properties! is a good site to reverse lookup an IP address!


from unknown (HELO (testplus0002@ with plain) by with SMTP; 22 Oct 2006 20:55:12 -0000

'I have received your address and ad from lady that You have answered,
whose address'', She has not wanted to write to you and has offered it to me. She have met the love of her life and she getting married. I very much regret about this, but I have hope, that WE have the future. And I will be your princess!

You have interested me and I have written to you. I would like to speak with you and maybe we can become serious as a couple. I am very interested in you and would like to learn more about you and than sooner the better. Here I will write briefly about myself. As you see on my photo I have grey eyes and blonde hair. I am a 29y.o., I was born on February 6, 1977, My height is 5 feet 5 inches. My weight is 110 pounds. My real name Julia, I has been born in St.-Petersburg, I have lived here all my life and I very much love my city.

I the beginner with the Internet and it scares me. It really scares me. It scares me because I have no way of knowing if you are truly the incredible, sensitive, intelligent, warm, caring, angel of compassion you seem to be! I have so much that I would like to share with you, but I must be sure that you are who you say are. I think that time will be show it to us. You write more now and send another picture.
Hope to hear from you soon!
Already yours Julia!'
2006-10-25, 09:38:12
anonymous from United States  
Here are all of the goodies that comes with Yahoo.

X-Originating-IP: []
Return-Path: <>
Authentication-Results:; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received: from (HELO ( by with SMTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:31:54 -0700
Received: (qmail 36864 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2006 01:31:54 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO (testplus0002@ with plain) by with SMTP; 24 Oct 2006 01:31:41 -0000
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:26:34 +0400
From: 'Julia' <> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.12.00) Personal
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <
2006-10-25, 09:48:06
anonymous from United States  
My is a Tulsa Oklahoma Comcast IP address and the other one is Maryland!
How are they doing this?
2006-10-25, 11:04:25
anonymous from United States  
I am with you guys. Going to play along and see what she really wants. To this point, she hasn't asked for money. Don't get it. In her letteres she says that she has money to travel here, but needs American Visa. That must be the catch. How much does a Visa cost? Anyone gotten to exactly what she wants from us?

I will keep you all informed of whats up as I try and turn the tide on her. I haven't gotten the bowling picture yet, I am a little jealous. Got all the others though.
Good luck guys,
2006-10-25, 11:31:31 from United States  
First Clue: an exceptional photographer
Second Clue: responses that hedge at mine but could be very generic
Third Clue: sweeping statements with no basis in our 'history' together

Shit! She's such a beautiful woman. Sure glad I didn't get my hopes up.
Thanks to all who set this up. It would be good to find a way to put her in jail. Con artists really suck!
2006-10-25, 12:46:48
anonymous from Mexico  
2006-10-25, 14:15:50
anonymous from United States  

'Scammers have a big problem to overcome when they try to get unwary people to send them money – first, there is a much higher awareness today so far fewer people fall for the scams. This means that Scammers need to 'play the percentages' and send out as many 'convincing' e-mails as possible in the hopes of finding their victim. How can they do this? Through technology solutions normally used by companies. Let me ask you two questions: First, what would you think if you knew that the person writing you was using a commercial software application typically used by businesses? Second, what would you think about receiving e-mails from a mail client from someone claiming that they were using an Internet Café? If you do not understand either of these two questions, your vulnerability to being scammed is much greater. There are two pieces of background information that will help you understand why understanding the context of these two questions is important:

First, managing the large number of scams that are necessary in order to identify a victim is difficult. The solution is to use a commercial software application that has the following characteristics:

1) The Scammer needs an e-mail client that can manage large amounts of e-mail from many different e-mail accounts (using the same e-mail account for communicating with many victims can be problematic since once identified as a Scammer, there are enough Blacklists that the e-mail account will be readily recognizable).
2) The Scammer needs an e-mail client that can sort messages from different e-mail accounts into threads do that the dialogue over time can be managed – this allows 'customization' of the communication with the victim to help avoid suspicion (not answering questions or ignoring important information can tip off a victim that something is wrong.
3) The Scammer needs a way to reduce the amount of effort required to communicate with all their victims.

Second, as the scale of the scamming activity increases, the Scammer will have a problem using a web e-mail service:

1) E-mail service providers, once aware of a scam, can involve law enforcement agencies and can identify other victims and send out warnings – the Scammer needs to minimize, as much as possible, traces of their scamming activities.
2) Most people would never consider using an e-mail application from an Internet Café (which many Scammers claim to be using) since all of their mail would be left on the computer they were using! If someone is using an e-mail application of any kind (Outlook Express, Outlook, etc.) while stating that they are using an Internet Café warning lights and a siren should be going off.

Now that we have identified the characteristics, we can discuss two simple tests that you can do yourself: First, as soon as possible, ask the person that you are corresponding with where they live. With this information, you can inspect the e-mail message header (most e-mail clients will show this information as 'message header' or 'show original message') – the part that you are looking for looks like this:

Received: from ( [])
(authenticated bits=0)
by (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jBHJSM2V039983
for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:29:30 +0300 (MSK)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:26:48 +1100
From: scammer
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01)

Step one is to find out where the message actually came from – for this example I am using an e-mail where the woman claimed to be using an Internet Café in Cheboksary, Russia. I enter the following URL into my web browser:

Next, I enter the IP address from the line that starts with 'Received:' which is:

And enter it into the 'Search for' field on the web page, which returns the following results:

person: Nikolay Nikolaev
address: Volgatelecom Mari El branch
address: Sovetskaya 138
address: 424000 Yoshkar-Ola
address: Russia MariEl Republic
phone: +7 8362 421549
phone: +7 8362 664435
fax-no: +7 8362 664151
nic-hdl: NN-RIPE
source: RIPE # Filtered

I am expecting the address to be Cheboksary and Chuvash Republic – I am not expecting the address to be Yoshkar-Ola and MariEl Republic! Actually, I already had a warning flag in the e-mail header:

Received: from

If the e-mail actually came from Cheboksary, I would expect to see the following:

person: Medukov J Alexandr
address: 428000 Cheboxary Lenin av 2a
phone: +7 8352 662912
nic-hdl: MJA4-RIPE
source: RIPE # Filtered

How did I get this information? Simple, find a government or business URL in the city you are interested in and enter it into Ripe. You may need to identify the IP address by using the PING command – this will turn a text URL into an IP address that can be searched on Ripe. I will not go into this more, since this topic wanders off topic a bit.

The important thing to note is that the city and republic do not match what was expected – there are a lot of people on this and other web site forums that can assist you if you need more help.

The second test is to examine the message header and look for 'X-Mailer:' – in our example we find the following:

X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01)

This means that the person sending me the e-mail from a supposed Internet Café is using an e-mail client application. By now, 'Red Alert' should be flashing! Why would someone use an e-mail client from an Internet Cafe? Well, most normal people would not – so this is very likely a scam!

Now that I have covered how you can test your own e-mails for scamming attempts, I want to return to the technology topic.

The Bat! (also known as TB! And TB) – I will use TB! From this point on – is an e-mail client application (a program that runs on a personal computer) that is marketed towards companies and individuals that need to manage large volumes of e-mail. The OECD refers to a category of company as a Small to Medium-Sized Enterprise – an SME for short. Smaller SME's often have very limited budgets and cannot afford specialized Sales and Marketing, Customer Service, and other forms of Customer Relationship Management (CRM) software. Our laboratory supports a group company that helps smaller SME's adapt TB! for their business. I mention this because TB! Has been associated with both Spamming and Scamming – the product is legitimate and is a valuable tool for many businesses; unfortunately, the same features that make TB! effective and efficient for companies, also provide a similar benefit to Scammers. There are two features that Scammers find particularly useful:

1) TB! supports a sophisticated macro programming language and a sophisticated ability to manage templates – predefined text that can be dynamically changed by the macro programming language to respond to e-mails. This allows a technically competent person to create a Scamming system that has a high degree of automation while at the same time allowing the scammer to add custom text in predefined areas within the template. The more people that the Scammer can correspond with, the more likely a victim can be found. 2) TB! is designed to work with multiple e-mail servers simultaneously. This makes it very easy for the Scammer to use numerous 'dummy' e-mail accounts for Scamming unsuspecting victims (TB! downloads and erases the e-mails from each e-mail server making it harder for investigators to track what was happening).
2006-10-25, 14:20:28
anonymous from United States  
Great job guys! She/he knows about this site and plows forward using The BAT! Bet we all represent a small number of victims being abused right now! I would be curious to know just how much has been collected so far! None by any of us... that is a good thing!
2006-10-25, 16:26:20
anonymous from United States  
Wow this is some cool and interesting shit! I ran Julia's Ip addresses on Ripe search and it was very interesting saying it is a world wide ripe query and could not be verified for location.
I ran my other two Russian friends and Katya came up exactly as the information above with our buddy Nikolay.
I ran Galina who is hot as hell, says she lives in Saratov Russia and it originates in Moscow, then Sweden but gives a name and address in Salem Oregon and had numerous trouble messages. I will admit I'm learning this as I go but this is some amazing shit people!
One other thing I want to add with my dealings is I ask them some very I mean very interesting questions and most cases I get back what seems to be a form letter with not even a hint of what I asked. Guys if you ask any woman certain things that make you get slapped in public wouldn't and shouldn't it offend this so called seetheart that wants to come marry you? I have more than pushed it and at first this Julia was personal but now it is a form letter with the name changed.
2006-10-25, 19:11:04
Mrs. C from United States  
hay poster above if you want some ideas of what to write to your beloved (whatever her name is this week) some funny stuff

2006-10-25, 19:50:50
[hidden] from United States  
OK, NOBODY HAS ANY BRIGHT IDEAS?!? Well, I wrote her letter and tiold her I was coming to her and needed her last name and address there in St. Pete. I know I won't get a real response, but thot I'd give it shot and see how far it goes. I'm pasting below what I sent - enjoy!! (Some is true btw) Oh - THANKS TECHI for the info. This is helpful for us laymen and we can now test our future contacts to see if they are really where they say! Again Thanks!

My Dear, My Sweet, My Darling, MY JULIA!

OOOOhhhh! that was more than I can bear!! !LOL LOL You are very sure of your self aren't you!?! Yes, you have my promise that when at last we meet, I will teach you and show the wonders of lovemaking that will go far beyond what your lovers ever dreamed of with you. And YES, that is possible - whoever she was that told you that was not lying!! I will enlighten you and show you how it is done - and other things you never know existed!!! How do I know this? Well, let me begin by saying you know a little as I told you before and I was waiting until we were face to face to share the rest with you - but since you have pressed me so to know ALL about it and will not stop bugging me, I wil tell you.

So, as I told you I told you before I had another nickname that I would share with you after our first session of lovemaking that just a few knew me by, it was not just a few like 12 or so that I slept with over the years, it was more like 46 if i recall correctly, or maybe 48, not real sure which. Yes, I did say that and when I was married to my first wife, I was not unfaithul to her -meaning that I never went behind her bacxk and or cheated on her but that is when it actually started she and I both used to share the same enjoyment and delight with another woman. She was Bi and that was why I asked that of you. She had a delightful and exquisite taste in women and from time to time we would spend weekends in the nicest hotels with different lovers that she would have arranged for us. We both would share ourselves with these women and every time I learned something different of them and of the female body. ( Example: Most will say there are about 10 to 12 differnt erogonous (erotic) zones that will excite or arouse a woman where I have learned there are at least as many as 18. ) When I found out she was seeing one woman behind my back and began lyiing to me about the one I didn't know, that I told you about, is when I began calling some of those we had shared and would make arrangements to meet them on my 'wok trips'. Sometimes they would bring along a girlfriend. This was more times than not and I was never dissaointed. Anywqys, over the years with my first wife I learned much from the different lovers. One of the most important was that there are different types of orgasms or climaxes that a woman can have. These are ecstacy and far outreaching than clotoris stimulation. Most women, and men, do not know either. I am not boasting or bragging, I simply am trying to prepare you for experiences that you will come to know - that I will teach you. And do you what else my dear? The time has drawn where we no longer have to wait!

When our marriage finally ended, is when I began living with my second wife, who was a player with us, then my lover while we were separated. We were happy the first 6 or 7 years and she enjoyed the women and me as well. This is when I began understanding even more of the female sex and started working completely on the woman's satisfaction. This is when I began to learn the differentn technics and also started to learn how much satisfaction I got from pleasing them, of course once they climaxed however many times they did they would then make sure I came - and it was good, but I really got into watching, listening to them while I brought them into another world. Then she began becoming sick like I told you and we stopped seeing others. Up until the day she passed, she always was jokling about me calling up our old 'friends' and telling me what each oine liked (likje I diudn't know!) the most, excited them the most or brought them to the highest climax. I could tell she was hurting inside her heart and truly did not want me sleeping with our old friends and that was when I assured her I would not and have kept my promise to this day and will always, as she watches down she will know I kept my word even afdter her passing.

The last 2 1/2 years have been difficult, yoiu are right, and yes I did tell the truth that I have been with 2 since her. Yes, I am ready to move on and the fact that you are not Bi makes me love you all the more! I could not live that style any nlonger. Can I be satisfied by just one woman? Yes my dear, but I told you I do have an appetite that must be fed and if you are not frigid and do not shut me out i will keep my promises to you and forever remain faithful.

Now,,,,, with that said, is that it? Anything else you want to know? Because,,,,,,,,,,,,, I have the MOST WONDERFUL NEWS!!!! I hope you will be as thrilled as I! I have made my plans to come to you!! I haven't made flight plans yet or rented an aprtment, as I wanted to ask you if you would prefer I stayed in aprtment so as not to intrude upon you? Allow us time to get to know one another better? I will be arriving in Saint Petersburg the 2 nd or week in November for 12 days!!!!

You see, I have a customer, that over the years we have become close frindes, also with his family. While you were away this weekend, I was working at his house (part time house as he now lives in Washington D.C.) and brought up our correspondence to him while I worked and how I wish I could go to you. How you had invited me over there. Well, he called me late last night - Tuesday - from the U.S. State Department in Wshington D.C. where he works and informed that he had called and spoken to the Director of Russian Consulate, Sergey Ovsyannikov, who he knows from his position with the Whoite House, and suprised me with a favor (can not use 'gift') by telling me he had arranged for my Visa to you. He is cutting through almost all the red tape!! I had to overnight copies of my passport, drivers license and social security card and he will process for me through Dir. Ovsyannikov and everything will be handles back and forth through overnight courrier!!! I am so excited and can not believe he is doing this for me. I should have my Visa in hand by next Monday or Tuesday!! I have looked at flights over there and want to make my reservations. I need to know though, is there a best time for you? What is your cycle? Hate to ask this but, I do noit want to come to you and find that is 'that time of the month', do you understand?

I am getting my Visa through my friend and the Director and bypassing all the red tape normally involved and the Dir. is going to contact the St. Petersbug offices so that all I have to do is call Mr. or Mrs. _______________? don't have that info yet, and let them know when I have arrived. Before the Dir. will sign off for my Visa, I have to giove your name and address. So, as I do not know your last name and don't know where you live, would you please reply back as quickly as possible so I can get the Visa well before I have fly nopver there?

I do so look forwatd to meeting you at last, these last 4 months have been fun but - It Is Time, My DEAR for us to take this step!

You always lite up my world,


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